/cyb/ - cyberpunk and cybersecurity

>>2287
>What's the difference between using two almost identical for-gratis services?

Tor and VPN are nothing alike, both in terms of infrastructure and amount of information each node has on you. See: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorFAQ#WhichTornodeknowswhat

Additionally, I'd recommend reading up on the difference between Tor and VPN, or their use together: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorPlusVPN

That should make you a more informed Alice.

>>2287
Also, privacy != anonymity. The difference is subtle but important when discussing these topics.

But if I have to spell out why VPNGate and similar "free" VPN services are no good, think about how the VPN provider has complete access to all of your browsing history (IP addresses, unencrypted webpage views, etc.). Would you rather put your browsing history into the hands of some shmuck who slapped OpenVPN onto a VPS somewhere or some other shmuck who makes it his business to do it correctly and attempt to minimize any log collection?

>>2291
I know what differences between Tor and generic VPN protocols are, between Tor infrastructure and infrastructure of your average "we do not keep logs" VPN provider. Linking decade old articles won't help newbies to understand the topic though. In fact it doesn't matter which Tor node knows what if three of them happen to be in France and France happens to have country-wide data logging and retention law, comprende, innit?
>>2292
None of those. I'd put it in hands of 3 shmucks who did apt-get install tor on their VPS and forgot about it. VPN should not be neither a service, nor it should be provided by third party rather than your company, your friend or yourself. However, VPNGate is comprised of volunteers from different countries, mostly Asian, but instead they use a SoftEther server. Similar to Tor node admins. It is not anonymous to the degree as Tor is, nor secure is. Therefore most people use it as circumvention tool, as most VPNs in fact are, just read their TOS closely. In fact I am 100% sure none of them will be interested in selling my hentai or chan preferences to advertisers, contrary to big so-called VPN """providers""" (what a stupid name, americans always come up with dumb terms tbh) who have access to thousands of user's data simultaneously. VPNGate is also a nice way of hiding your Tor exits from some half-assed websites that decided to block Tor connections for some reason.
>unencrypted webpage views
That's mostly old obscure pages from web 1.0 era, I am completely fine with it. Everything that has a login page today has https, but if a public page has https, it won't save you from snooping. You know, there is this thing called "Website fingerprinting attack" When you visit a website, even over VPN, SSH tunnel, or https every page has unique download patterns. The technique is pretty accurate around 90%, an adversary can detect what pages on "encrypted" site you visit. So, in order to at least hide what websites you visit from your ISP even when using VPN, you'll need a custom VPS with obfuscated shadowsocks rather than plain OpenVPN on someone else's computer.

Has anyone ever run their own OpenVPN server instance on a dedicated server before. I've considered doing this and running my own VPN service. Is there anything security wise wrong with doing this? Is there a reason why I never see anyone mentioning doing this?

>>4218

Well if your server is under your name then you're easier to find. If you're sharing servers with thousands of other people through a service you're less identifiable.
I'm not an expert, that's just my understanding of it.
You can certainly run your own VPN server, I do, because I'm not doing anything malicious or illegal. I just mainly use it when connecting to unfamiliar wifi.

>>4204
The way China is talked about in western media downplays their power. Chinese control/police systems are incredibly subtle and sophisticated, you're exactly right with saying the days of tanks in the streets are past. Remember those ink-cannons the police were shooting recently? Remember all the headlines this past year about Chinese recognition tech? The West is still stuck in the cold war era, themselves, and how they look at China.

>>4205
The surveillance tech is the nutty part. Their seeming aim for and current ability of, digital omniscience is a bit amazing.

>>4201
ya, i was surprised it took so long.

>>4199
Their demands include electing their own government,
not being returned to the UK as a colony,
so that history is not relevant to if they are or aren't smart.

P.S.:
It is easy to overestimating the role of the West in these protests.
Most of the protesters don't wave American flags, and not everyone agrees with those who do.
They are just trying to exert pressure on their government however they can.

>>4205
The West™ is subtly trying to push the same surveillance state on its citizens that China alrady is, perhaps that's why that aspect is seldom mentioned.

China's surveillance state is way less effective than America's. Somehow, Five Eyes have figured out how to not only watch everyone's every move, but also to make radicals so incredibly ignorant and brainwashed that they don't even understand why or how they should stay safe.

It would probably be less hard hitting if they all leaked. People would just not care as much "well I have this on me but look, literally all the people in the country do as well!" It would be a lot more constructive and powerful if someone held onto that kind of blackmail and leaked it out surgically a bit at a time. If an official is just one in a large crowd it will hurt them less to be exposed.

>>4069
>What happened to dnscrypt
Cloudflare ate it (https://1.1.1.1)

>>4133
>i use opennic, because i didn't want to pay for a domain
Same but with tor hidden services

>>4069
Opennic is top recomendation from privacytools.io for DNS

do you think it's possible to run a pleroma instance on opennic that federates with the rest of the paid-net? I feel like that'd be a huge step forward in privacy-socialmedia but idk how that would work.

>>4181
You can have an opennic domain and an icann domain for the same host.

I'm using OpenNIC since years, soykaf just works. Not using DNSCrypt yet though, might look into that.

>>4191
the 5k is for producing 4 prototypes and experimenting with some 3d printing stuff. We'll be going to investors soon and hopefully getting some more funds! The crowdfunder kinda failed so were hoping to get the majority of money from the investors. We only need about 50k, which is doable. The guns will use audino and r-pis, we have a basic prototype but it needs a little tweaking.

Literal manchildren

>>4225
Let's see you true to start a business from literally soykaf

>>4224
From what I see in these crowdfund details, and in your short video, I doubt you will get institutional funding for this. Maybe if you have a rich aunt or uncle you are pitching it to, but no serious investor is going to drop money on this in this state. You need to brush up and polish almost everything you have here.

If you are interested I've worked at small startups companies as they were in the process of acquiring their initial seed-round funding. Post your business plan or post a throwaway email here and I would look over your documentation for you and try to help you out. No offense but you guys look like you don't know what you are doing.

If you want real investment you need things that given how shoddy this looks you probably haven't considered. If you have good this won't be any news to you. But you don't want just a business strategy which is what you have listed on here. You need in depth profit/loss projection sheets for sometimes multiple years out, you need cash flow projection statement sheets, capitalization tables for the investor planning, break-even analysis calculations specific to the investors. Umm what else, you need an opening-day balance sheet, and it needs to be correct or you will ruin your earning projections. You also probably need a production/ or in this case capacity statement.

If you are serious you need to have pre-estimated ROIs based on specific timelines and they have to be realistic. You also probably want to calculate up any business assets you are going to get that can act as a collateral in the long-term. You should come at them with what 'requested repayment terms' you think are reasonable. Don't let them control the narrative. If anyone gives you money without you presenting them with the kind of analysis and reporting I've been describing they are either. 1. your stupid relatives who know nothing about finance, or 2. they are scamming you.

OP here

>>4226
Don't feed the trolls

>>4227
Unfortunately neither of us have any funds for art/proper graphics. We have also considered everything we think needs considering. We're working on an investor pitch atm, if you want a copy of our business plan. feel free to ping us at: Quantumtactic@gmail.com or use twitter DMs (link in the OP)

We've been getting similar comments from other people, and we're working on correcting our mistakes.

I personally doubt the investors will give us much, so were working on a a set of working prototypes for next time, along with getting proper art as well.

I'd like to meet, but where I am it's too late.

Alright, I'm going to cancel this upcoming meetup. I'm going to remove this thread, flesh out a better thread with more details, and with more information than the current one. I'm meeting Family this weekend, so I expect it will be posted around Sunday.

If you have any concerns towards times, dates, and content, reply to this post.

>>1844

Can we get more information on why this recent decision?

>>1703
Restart for justice. Can we do matrix?

>>1703
>http://www.underthewire.tech/ (Powershell)
Thanks for this OP. I just did all of Century in ~30 min. Its fun and easy.

Passwords to get started are names of accounts : century1 pw: century1 etc.

>>4213

I hate blocking or unfollowing people, I want a diverse range of weird/unpopular opinions. Most people dont violate rules necessarily, they are just really really boring.

>>4214
I block the content, not the person. Got thousands of filtering rules, if their message match one, I never see it.

>>4214
Thats just religious insistence on non-blocking purity. Going places to avoid these people os the same thing as blocking them in the place they are, the net effect is the same: their freespeech isnt impacted, your not bothered to hear them.
Everyone isnt entitled to your attension, not all content is equal. There is a difference between end user filtering - which is discriminating attension and important, and the government blocking people which inhibits flow of ideas and is bad.

Instagram because Facebook is for normal people.

>>4192
Now I am using https://miinatsu.wodemo.com/

>>1476
What client do you use? I'd rather avoid Riot's electron implementation.

>>3930
nheko

>>1476
#wired is empty join up alice.

I just tried out this room, just like every other it was mostly idle. Is there a single place where I can go that I can talk that isn't idle? Is that even possible with online chat?

>>4217
Make a place.

Continue the war. It makes no sense.
K codes for cybernetics.
Dark-side K - microcultures use the annihilation of the future as a directly contactable stimulation space, zero- K sliding on-line during virtual nuclear winter, everything frozen in place, except along faultlines of ragged nova jungle Pacific fringe, simmered in continual war.

Nick Land, Cyberspace Anarchitecture as Jungle-War (1995)

This is what I imagine

I imagine the future of the moist, green and fertile battlefield, where hackers take the form of predators. Their humanity rejected and living like beasts that exist only as a wave set in the electron field. They walk the walk and talk the talk inside and out.

Each culture serves as the foundational infrastructure of a new hyperspace were hearts and minds are one. The commercium mesh is protected by new densities, flowers and cartoonish bear traps, seasoned with child night terrors, while a war and game unfolds.

Lolita assassins clip the leaders of the enemy network, using the forbidden techniques, disabling orgasms and explosive diarrhea. They recover the heads for later to eat them in the secret sacred rituals, entering in communion with the martyrs. That is what I dream of in the future. New gods. A revolution. A final solution.

>Is there any good community around prank calls? Any good sources about that?

lmao what, no

just act confident and tell people what they expect to hear. Same as any con except in this case you're just trying to get them to believe stupid soykaf.

Back in like 2012 we used Skype and Clownfish for skype