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We all love lain


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I wonder what mr lain is doing rn


Don't forget /lain/ and /arisu/.


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everyone should love lain

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>What is Cicada 3301?
Cicada 3301 is a nickname given to an organization that on three occasions has posted a set of puzzles to possibly recruit code breakers/linguists from the public. The first internet puzzle started on January 4, 2012, and ran for approximately one month. A second round began one year later on January 4, 2013, and a third round following the confirmation of a fresh clue posted on Twitter on January 4, 2014. The stated intent was to recruit "intelligent individuals" by presenting a series of puzzles which were to be solved. No new puzzles were published on January 4, 2015. However, a new clue was posted on Twitter on January 5, 2016. In April 2017 a verified PGP-signed message was found: Beware false paths. Always verify PGP signature from 7A35090F.[6] That message explicitly denies the validity of any unsigned puzzle, as recently as April 2017.

>Tell me more

>3301 related resources


Can you stop with this meme? Cicada 3301 is dead and its name is used by skids all around the world. Its just a soykaf anonym00se name now

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hey alice,

this intelligence agency which seems to be made up of all exfbi has suddenly taken an interest in me. do y'all know anything about them? should I even worry lol?
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They won't tell you to do it, they will make you do it (MKULTRA and whatever their current internal codename is). I honestly think that's also why they aren't releasing the Guantanamo papers. It's just a modern version, and a factory to create sleeper terrorists which will do the terrorism aka false flags.


What the fuaark are you guys talking about


But ignore >>478 they don't control your mind.


>they don't control your mind.

You sure have proof for that, shill?


huh, i hope you know that stuff like this really exists and MKUltra is proven to be real, right?

there are many methods to do stuff like this. from year long "training" you, to drugs and other craziness.
even without training, it can be achieved short time with drugs like "colombian devil".

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I'd like to talk about suicide with you guys? Do you think it's an honorable thing? Should it be done at all? What is your view about suicide and whatever religion you happen to be a part of? I for one think it's a waste but one has full control of whether they want to live or not. We have free will and part of that comes with being able to end it.
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bleh, but this is the utilitarian argument, and it is crap because a person that is in that situation is not in a good headspace to rationally decide if death is actually the better tradeoff over their suffering.

When you are in the midst of suffering it feels like this never ending storm from your perspective, and this makes it impossible to judge the utility of death vs life because you are in an altered or biased mental state.

The utilitarian marginal-utility of life arguments are all shlocky garbage, and abstract out the mental state of the actor involved to make them sound more rational than what actually is happening in practice.


We must also consider however the unnecessarily huge value put on the life and potential of any single random human. Most people are nothing special, and many are outright more trouble than worth. They can and will be replaced from a societal viewpoint, and the personal tragedy of those who cared about this person is inevitable and not at all rare. Problem is, it's rude and hurtful to relatives to be so statistical about it, so everyone is faking empathy and paints suicide as a horrible tragedy where some heavenly potential value was lost, totally excluding the fact that the suicidal guy could have died in an accident tomorrow, or end up a lifeless office drown, drug addict, criminal, unsuccessfully treated case of cancer, etc.

My overall point is that, while indeed suicidal people aren't in a state where they can judge if it's a good tradeoff; unless they are special, what is lost by allowing them to make the wrong choice probably isn't worth the hassle of trying to stop them.


>it is crap because a person that is in that situation is not in a good headspace to rationally decide if death is actually the better tradeoff over their suffering.

I used to hold this sentiment.

Certainly I can see where you come from, given a person who is visibly perturbed by something, behaving erratically and generally stressed out, its arguable that they are in a position where one could justify intervention against the acts of their agent as being ultimately for the best interests of the individual.

Still I feel this is somewhat pretentious, and personally I rather feel that if we are to beleive in human agency we ought to afford those perceived agents with a good deal more respect than this. That person has most likely, seriously considered alternatives, knows their situation better than anyone, certainly better than a random observer, and is doing its best to make a rational choice.

I am not saying you should go to whomever expresses a desire for death, and pass them a loaded gun, but if an agent, through the use of what resources are avaliable to it, kills its person, I cannot see how you can find anything wrong in that what so ever.


You had me up unil
> That person has most likely, seriously considered alternatives, knows their situation better than anyone, certainly better than a random observer, and is doing its best to make a rational choice.

Most people I know are not dumb or average people, and most people who I am very close with I can probably elect to say "it is their life and they can make rational decisions" for most of the set of people I personally know and encounter.

But if you look at like the vast majority of people who commit suicide, it is usually done due to a situation that to the outside observer seems solvable in general. Most people are really really really really fucking stupid. Anyone above one standard deviation or close to that range from the mean IQ I probably trust to make their own decisions on this kind of matter. But if you take a reasonable average? Most people are not emotionally capable to both juggle the stressful mental state, and rationally assess their options.

This is obviously a very anecdotal argument and I don't think that a study of this hypohesis would ever be possible. But I feel like this is a logical argument for what you are refering to as 'pretentious' yes, it is very pretentious but I also think that my pretention will provide a higher value even if incorrect or stupid, than other ways of thinking about personal agency.

tldr; I treat agents in this system with respect if they are demonstrably above average in intelligence or in some other measure, probably capable of making these decisions in a rational way, and I error on the side of caution with people who are of normal intelligence, even at the risk of insulting them and being pretentious.


Complex Numbers ft А. Климковский - Часть 4. Ты в мире один (бета)

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Since so much of the ocean is unexplored, what do you guys think is down there? I think that some dinosaurs probably survived and are just chilling out down there. I wouldn't be surprised if some prehistoric giant fish were just waiting for the right time to come back up.
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I saw an article a few years back and searched it upon seeing this thread. Apparently, prehistoric shark finds are not all that ucommon


All of this remind me the film " The big blue " from Luc Besson, and the possible paradize of the deep blue maybe the same thing that major Kusanagi in ghost in thé shell is searching in the see .


There's water. soykaftons of water. And if you thought that's much, there's also stone. Way more than water.


People are always obsessed over large things lurking in the deep sea, but I'd be much more afraid of very very small things that we haven't uncovered. What if there is some crazy killer virus that is locked into the bottom of the ocean dormant. Or some other small organism that is remaining on the sea floor in a few remote areas that if brought to the surface could harbor some ancient disease for which there would be no cure.

All that laying in wait for some scientist to dredge up unknowingly. It could be being dredged up right now.


Giant squid exist and use the only option to get big (e.g. being a boneless blob) in the deep that we know.
There is barely anything to eat in the deep, a giant would have to feed from some underwater source that is again not known to us, which is pretty unlkely because we know a lot about earth's geology.

Well, corporations is a better choice because they are much more numerous and less careful to potential damage.
That is a better scenario but lokking at the bottomless pit of the sea sure makes me thing of unholy creatures with villainous intentions.

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Though I don't buy into it completely, my mother works for a HIGHLY important Doctor in alternative medicine. I won't disclose any details, but you can ask about anything pertaining to GMO's, Vaccines, Energy healing, and other stuff.
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Alice, what you seem to be missing is that "holistic medicine" is an actual term that refers to an actual movement in the field of medicine.


>The fedoras just shout you down about le scientific proof xD

Scientific proof is kind of a big deal, especially when you're dealing with medicine. You don't get to just not justify your positions by calling everyone who disagrees with you an ignorant neckbeard.


Sorry for not responding. My computer is broken and I decides to do more productive stuff with my life. Anyhow, I tried to find answers to all of these questions. In the end, it's all bullsoykaf. Treatment is truthfully one idea in the end, "Get better". They tell you all these ways to prevent getting sick, and if you get sick…I don't even know. Meditate? Pray? Maybe a placebo will make someone content with their lives. The reason I fell into this is because my mothet got into a car accident. She had rheumatoid arthritis for the next two years and gained alot of weight. She quit her job at a traditional practice and found "The Doctor". A little later, she stopped feeling pain. Somehow her arthritis was cured. I tried to find out the exact procedures, but I'm would never get a clear answer. I thank all the skeptics on the thread for defending what's right. I'm sorry for people with questions that I couldn't answer. In the end, I just don't know.


Sorry for being a phonefag too


You didn't even read the rest of the post. Besides, if you think science trades in "proof" you aren't qualified to discuss science to begin with. Science takes all possible data and comes up with the most plausible answer until more data is available. So called "proof" is antithetical to scientific principles.

This is exactly what I was talking about.

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We are irc dedicated to /x/ /fring/ and conspiracy theories.

We were based out of halfchan but we have grown across many other chans

Come join and talk about your spooks and theories or just chill with us :)

we're on #/x/philes

if you dont wanna install an irc client click the kiwiirc link

Thank you and hope to see you all soon


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go away mcboots


yeah no, i've lurked this channel for weeks and aside from offtopic chatter and quizbots nothing much is happening there.


we do talk about spook but you have to raelized after awhile we talked about most things. and most people have gotten close enough to be friends.

spook happens but it will happen more with new people

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A week ago one girl texted me. She told me that i can join a special cryptography school. Its coordinates are secret until i draw "X" on special paper, you know. I said "No". I dont want to have deals with FBI. Oh, come on, im only 16, im too young for this soykaf. Will they find me later? She said that "they" have been spying for me offline. What should i do? Will i wake up in the basements of ministry of love one day? Gime me an advice, alice!


is obvious funpost but image is good so thank.

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Hi, Alice! I want to talk with you about Big Brother. He is closer than you think. Have you ever heard about Intel ME? Its in every computer and you cant remove it, even if you are nerd with soldering iron and programmator. Its uses MINIX(Unix-like system) and lives with your BIOS in one micro. It lives when your computer is off. It can use internet. That's not all. Cryptography is useless because there are backdoor in your RNG. Also i heard about backdoors in Windows system. I'm a computer security specialist. I'm making all software that i need. I have dreadfully modified my computers with soldering iron. Special photo-elements are blocking possible cameras. Please be more careful and learn some about hardware.


I know, I know very well and that is why I think open hardware is such an important thing but people seems to be so indifferent to it.


Thats too silly. Reverse engineering skills are better. Tplink 722-n(atheros, rev-1) is a good example. You can download driver written by hackers and do illegal things on a 10$ board. Also ZX-SPECTRUM computer is one of the best examples of national union(Mostly in USSR). Computers like RPI are getting popular these days and this is really cool. There are no INTEL CPU so there are no INTEL ME, it costs just 45$ and has GPIO, Wifi, bluetooth. By GPIO pins you can make advanced crypto-hardware and so on. Indepence is the main factor for security and privacy!


>tfw too poor to afford Talos II mainboard


Beautiful point, OP! I'd like to bring it to everyone's attention that you are never safe with technology. Also, the smell of burning silicon is just magnificent. If you'd like to find more information to learn more about the subject, well….
I'll leave it up to you to decide the most secure way to open this link.


you're not save ever if everyone without tech. USSR is example. Technology doesnt spy, people do

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Or is he just a scam artist. I want to watch actual conspiracy theorists who are serious about their crap,, the only other one i know is David icke
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"controlled opposition"
says the fed


he is CIA, google it. even shares offices with one of their contractors


James Corbett



I'm not the guy you were replying to but I really agree, please give me an argument about how he isn't If he isn't he is probably the worst fucking proponent of this stuff in existence.

I can't tell you how many people I know who spout the 'turning the frogs gay' meme and have never actually thought that it could even possibly be true or tried to look it up. His presentation literally neutralizes very serious issues in the minds of the masses and makes them sound like nutcase bullsoykaf. Him reporting on something literally makes people believe it less.

If he isn't controlled opposition knowing what he is doing at the very least he should fucking stop. He literally bleeds the legitimacy of the concerns he speaks about just by virtue of speaking on them.


He probably hypes everything up and does make some bs up but there is some truth to what he is saying. I happen to agree with him on a couple things and the witch hunt against him should be a warning sign for everyone here.

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