/feels/ - personal experiences

>hur dur isn't there an app for that
On a more serious note, you could just ask the managers of places you visit or check your neighborhood craigslist alternative.

At the end of the day you are selling a skillset to employers. Keep this is mind. YOU are SELLING your SKILL. In return for this skill, they pay you money. It's not about 'getting a job' or being employed. It's about selling a skill. And you have no skills to sell, that's where it ends.

Not sure what country you're from, but where I am we have a huge coffee culture (probably the most sophisticated in the world) and you can get degrees and certificates in barista work, usually 6 or 12 months which, even while studying, could get you a job making coffee.

To become a waiter though, you definitely need even basic work experience as they generally want a professional and proven person for such a people-heavy task. If you're still young (15-18) it's usually easy to apply to a bakery part-time and get a couple months experience which can really help you along. If you're over 18, you usually cost more per hour, it'll be harder.

If all else fails, volunteer for a couple weeks in a cafe or something, get something to put on a resume and, more importantly, a professional reference. I hope this helps

>>661
You are not selling your skill, you are selling your capacity to work. Selling your skill would mean separating it from you and the buyer having it. While in practice the buyer only decides how to utilize it. What is separated from you is the time you spend at work, it is what the employer buys.

god i hate ordering pizzas on the phone

>>666
hail satan.
also, i never understood why people don't like ordering on the phone.
you can basically say whatever as long as you order.

>>660

That is the worst advice. Almost all those jobs application process is entirely online

OP, Here's how you do it.

Apply online, do this until someone sets up an interview

Be clean. Wear decent clothes. Khakis and a collared shirt.

Be friendly, but reserved. Have a smile, but no need to try to make these people your friend already.

Tell them you're driven and explain how your capable of anything they could need and you're ready to help out around in the other department positions when you need to.

As long as you make yourself not look like some dirty neet (even if you are) as long as you seem genuine and capable enough (entry level service jobs anyone can do. I've worked a couple of them. You'll see a lot of soykaf.)

Although you are on Arisuchan, so maybe you could get a slightly better job for the resume by going for some entry level IT work too. If you throw up a resume on a jobsite with some keywords people will hire you if you have absolutely no experience. Too many people seem to not give a soykaf about my experience and certs and call me for jobs I would never take because it's just a waste of my skillset.

no more working for a boss, alice

the freedom of being forced to join the gig economy and run avotoast to post-yuppie urbanite scum while technically not employed, with no benefits means that you will be bossless finally at the expense of working for a company that has annexed their couriers

you have to make less than an immigrant worker, you have to live off of boiled, half shucked rice, while pimping out your transgendered girlfriend's nudes which brings in about $15 a month although it's all she ever talks about, but you will be be spending that on your warcraft subscription to sell tokens and such so don't worry

also you get pelted by automobiles for the next 10 years and you better not break anything because you can't afford insurance or a hospital visit but nevermind this is what we all qualify for, also don't unionize or peek your head too far into your handcrafted nightmare

> My ideal job is something like a barista or waiter

You probably start as the dishwasher and after a few months of demonstrating that you can both work hard and interact with people you ask to get moved to another position. Personally all I got out of dishwashing was horrible skin rashes and an intense hatred for employment in the service industry but you may turn out to be different.

Barista here. I just walked in a coffee house with the best coffee in the city and said "I wanna work here". A small cafe in a narrow side street, not a franchise or something. An hour later the owner arrived and I got my interview and I got my job. I've had literally no experience in food stuffy work. For first four months I worked as a waiter until I got enough experience with coffee. The hardest parts of learning were latte art and achieving a stable quality of espresso.
You won't be going much outside the bar, obviously.

> you could get a slightly better job for the resume by going for some entry level IT work
Fuck IT. Seriously. Go for the job you like, not the job that's cool and hip these days.
Yes, I used to work in IT too.

>>1961
I'm curious… what country? Because it doesn't work like that here (Canada). People look at your FB before they hire you even for bottom feeding minimum wage jobs.

>>1962
Eastern Europe.
I don't even have a fb.

>>1963
Yeah. I guess it was like that here once. Even before the internet was mandatory, you at least needed a paper resumé going back a few decades. Work sites here have signs that say "no hiring on site".

You can't get anything here without a reference either.

I have a degree in CS but dislike it very much and cannot work in that industry. I'd like to do what >>1961 did but I am American and it seems every thing is starbucksd and dehuman.

>>2292
Its possible you're city is boring, its possible you havent found the right places though. Look around, find nice little shops or restaurants. Go to the city cente if you have one and find nice cozy places. I'm sure there's something for you.

>>662
You're not there to work. You're there to fill a role and you trade time in the roll for money. Time is money. The work done is done by many roles and that's why no one needs just you.

I'm looking for work right now. Holy soykaf it is hard and stressful, it is almost easier and less stressful when they ignore me rather than call me back.

>>2597

Trapped in a kafkaesque situation
"Oh alice, come here next week and bring this documents"
next week: "oh alice thank you, we will maybe call you again for a second interview, stay alert!"
the next interview: "oh alice you seem very nice, how about a 2 week (non paid) experience?"
and on and on and on

1 # Apply to lots of places both for the practice and to give yourself options.

2 # If an employer says they'd hire you, let them know your comparing different options and will get back to them once you make a decision.

3 # Consider getting 2 jobs (The advantage is if you somehow lose one you've got the other to fall back on, This looks better on future resumes as well. Also gives you flexibility for excuses on days you don't want to work. )

4 # Be helpful but don't give in to every single request your manager/other employees ask of you.

5 # Consider using a false time frame; some employers might be less likely to hire you if they know you'll only be around for 6 to 12 months but if you think you can get the job anyway, give them a reason why you'd be leaving by x time and your employer is likely to be more friendly when you leave.

6 # Dress well, smell good, etc…

7 # Good luck.

>>1958 lol, barrista and waiter are very much entry level positions. The only reason you apply to be dish washer is if you have a horrible resume ( fired from serveral paste jobs) or the place is SUPER fancy.

>>2601
….or they make everyone wash dishes there before letting them work a better job. Lots of places do this in the real world.