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 No.2099

Why do normal person retail workers try to be so happy and giddy and inviting? A girl at a gyro place I went to in the past asked me where I'd been and started borderline flirting. I can't go back there now, my anonymity was shattered.

 No.2100

>>2099
They'd be fired in a day if they were rude or grumpy while serving a customer. They have to put on a facade to keep their job, basically.

 No.2101

>>2099

"A man without a smiling face must never open a shop"

Sounds like she was giving good customer service. Nothing wrong with a bit of flirting either. Doesn't mean it will go anywhere. It's just a game.

I always walk out of stores if the workers are rude. I'm not going to give money to someone who is being cunty.

 No.2102

>>2101
There are levels between asking about people's lives and almost-flirting, and being a rude cunt, though.

I don't want the purely mechanical handshake between two strangers to try to mimic the interactions I have with the ones I truly care about. With a broken receiver SNR is bad enough on its own as it is.

 No.2105

>>2102

You're definitely over thinking it.

 No.2107

>>2105
Of course I do. I could also have said "I just don't like it.", but where whould that leave us when it comes to further discussion?

So I try to find out a plausible reason for why I don't like it, derived from knowing myself in a more general contnext all those years, what I value, what I detest.

If I posted pictures of cats in a cat picture thread, it would be possible to state, truthfully, that I definitely like cats.

 No.2108

>>2107
So she overdid it, and made you uncomfortable. She was just tryna do what was expected of her in a job, and went overboard. Or that's just her personality, maybe she's just like that to anyone she meets regardless of context.

I think expecting everyone to act perfectly appropriately according to your standards at all times is too high a bar. I sure as hell don't want people holding me to that.

 No.2109

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>I can't go back there now, my anonymity was shattered.
how far do you people go with this greyman Mr. Robot soykaffery lmao
i get having internet anonymity, but honestly bro do you think you're so damn important that the CIA is gonna interrogate retail workers for your facial details

 No.2110

Becuase they make them do it. So the people who doesn't like fake smiling end up quitting or becoming so miserable that they end up firing them.

I work at front desk at a hotel and they have a guideline for us as to how many feet away we must make eye contact and start smiling when a guest enters the lobby. Then we must ask them how was their trip and pretty much pretend we are interested in them.

I don't like pretending for a salary that only affords me to put food on my mouth and a roof over my head, so I just treat everyone with respect but I'm straight to the point and don't fake soykaf.
If I were to pretend I would be a prostitute for a much higher salary.

 No.2111

They are told to do it to hide the fact that the only reason you are there is either to spend money or make money. Despite all the mystification of the ruling ideology it is clear to many that most, if not all, of our relationships are based on nothing but exchange of commodities: we know our colleagues because we have to sell our labour power, we talk to the cashier because we have to exchange our money for commodities, etc. The idea is that if they can make you believe that there's more to it, there's genuine interest and care, you are more likely to choose their gyros instead of that one at the next corner, even if their pitas are bigger.

 No.2112

>>2108
If it was her personality then it's fine, the interaction would be genuine, and that's kind of the point.

I'm fine with talking to people, with their flaws and good sides. I'm fine with interacting with a corporate mask for maximum efficiency. I'm not fine with corporate masks coopting the signals and mannerisms of somebody trying to be my friend, and strapping them to the face of a retail worker with stress headache and who worries about their mother's cancer evaluation.

 No.2113

>>2099
I hate that too. I'm just here to buy some stuff, why do I have to tell strangers how I am?
I pretty much only do self-checkout or order online so I don't have to deal with that.

 No.2132

>>2099
there are vending machines, for a lot of things. There also are sites that sell basically everything you want by shipping. You can avoid a lot of interaction, if you want to, quite easily.

Please dont

 No.2134

>>2112
But that you don't know is the point, it reasonably could have been her personality. Especially if this gyro place was a small one. But even places like Starbucks with rigorous staff conditioning programs have genuine ones in their bunch, who would greet the situation the same regardless of whether or not there was a counter between you.

It's not that you can't go back there, if you're gonna take the line you're taking you can't go anywhere, because you can run into it anywhere. It's systematic. If you wanna completely avoid corporate masks I'll wish you luck, but be careful not to shut out genuine humans in the process.

 No.2135

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>>2134

Older cybpunk here.

There are genuine humans everywhere. Despite what the corps want, you can't
switch that off. Some suppress it better than others, but I find it fun exposing it. I like to make them crack and laugh. At a point now where I can make most people cave in to down-to-earth interaction.

Here's some homework for socially anxious OP: throw some innocent banter in to the convo.

Realise that there is an actual person serving you, and it is just a job.

Maybe watch Fight Club and reset your perspective. Make it a game. Look for patterns.

Have some sympathy too: unless they're a business owner(and even then…), people working retail trully are not happy with their job/life. At some point, they likely had a mother/father telling them they could achieve anything…and now they have this.

Don't over think things. They're not programs. I live the life too, but honestly, don't go too far with it. It won't buy you anything in the long run.



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