No.3450
Why are you not using tox yet /cyb/? P2P encrypted text, voice, video, and group chat. Full support for tor if you want anonymity. This kills the discord botnet. We have an lain dedicated room setup there. Keep it comfy no racism allowed..
Install it with your package manager or from:
https://tox.chat/download.htmlWe have a bot you can add and get invited: 415732B8A549B2A1F9A278B91C649B9E30F07330E8818246375D19E52F927C57F08A44E082F6
No.3451
>>3450because it's not anonymous
No.3452
plz stahp shilling avarice
No.3453
>>3451>very first post mentions tor support.durrrr
No.3455
God it was a pain getting this thing off the ground back on 4chan /g/, "it can't be done"
"Give up" "it will fail!" Those losers can all eat there words as well as ⬛ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
I typed the bot the command invite aswell as inv, not getting anything back, anybody help me?
No.3507
>>3450And there is a bunch of sociallly challenged autists screaming about nothing in Club Cyberia.
No.3555
Not OP but there's a matrix channel too >>/q/2118
No.3557
you serious?
No.3606
Only retarded memelords use Tox:
https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426They have a vulnerability that they cannot/will not do anything about and anyone who uses Tox has probably been added to some troll from 4/g/'s botnet.
If you want encrypted messaging that is actually good, Matrix, Briar, and soon Cwtch are all far superior options. Briar unfortunately doesn't currently allow for remotely adding contacts last I checked and Matrix does not yet have a decent client or server (the official server that has all the features of the Matrix protocol is dependency hell and very resource hungry). But they all offer different solutions to different problems.
Cwtch is based off of Ricochet (
https://ricochet.im/) and is going to be implementing multiple devices and offline messaging through an untrusted network of anonymous servers. The whole thing runs over Tor and focuses on being metadata-resistant.
https://cwtch.im/https://briarproject.org/https://matrix.org/blog/home/ No.3640
The Tox bot Lainbot has gone offline and the Club Cyberia autist group has essentially disbanded. Is there a reason Lainbot has been offline for days? Just curious. Maybe it's for the best that it permanently stays offline as the content of which was posted in there was mostly trolling and brainless content, but there were a few cool people in there that I now can't get into contact with and I wanted to wish them a merry Christmas, or at least a goodbye.
No.3641
>>3640the tox group is alive. Lainbot however is down, and I have reasons to believe this is a permanent situation. In the meantime, people in the chatroom can invite others with whom they've exchanged IDs.
there are discussions about starting an new bot. Its ID surely will be posted around here if that happens.
No.3657
>>3641Can someone in the lainroom add me?
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No.3658
Here is the new lainbot
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No.3659
>>3606is Signal ok, sensi?
No.3664
just use the onion chatroom, it's anon at least
No.3665
>>3664nobody ever talks there in the entry-room, and there is this culture of having to wait for your account to be added to the room that people actually talk in. Even then, surprise surprise. Nobody talks in there. At least in Club Cyberia there is constant conversation without gatekeeping.
No.3666
>3664
Chat is down.
No.3673
>>3658Is the lainbot not working for anyone else? It takes my info and id and help commands but when I try the invite command it just never sends the invite. It was working a few days ago.
No.3711
>>3450Tox is a piece of soykaf hacked together by literal /g/-tards.
https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426There are way superior open protocols already like XMPP or Matrix, so there's no reason to use a 4chon meme.
No.3769
Is the Club Cyberia room kill? The bot shows that no groupchats exist on it.
[19:00:43] lainbot: Uptime: 0d 0h 40m
[19:00:43] lainbot: Friends: 95 (14 online)
[19:00:43] lainbot: Inactive friends are purged after 365 days
[19:00:43] lainbot: No active groupchats
No.3772
dead
No.3773
>>3769recent changes with tox are breaking aspects of groups and messing with the bot. It was inviting people to empty rooms and otherwise misbehaving.
We havent fixed quite everything, but the bot is up, and about 10 of us are hanging out in the chat, so feel free to stop by and say hi.
Also, as always if you know someone already in the chat you can get them to invite you back.
No.3795
because we use something better
No.3797
>>3711this issue gave me hope and confidence
No.3798
>>3795What is it that you use, I'm open to recommendations, but I've pretty much decided to only use tox at this point because it is the only good option from all the ones I have tried.
No.3803
>>3798i realize now that someone has shared this already but i would advise using XMPP over tox especially riot
No.3804
>>3659>is Signal ok, sensi?
>needs phone number to register>not anonymous>AWS infrastructure>no way to op out gservices>not financially independendyou tell me, anon.
No.3805
>>3659>>3804It's a fine solution to dragnet surveillance that works on a phone and is easy to use. It's the wrong tool if you think you might be targeted or you need anonymity.
No.3808
>>3606like they said IF that super sekret key is stolen[how?] you have other things to worry about, that issue is made bigger than it is
No.3864
I don't think there is anything wrong with tox from what I see in this thread these arguments are not very good. I don't really think it is possible to create a perfect secure chat really, there are negatives we cold fill a thread with on every single one of the currently available options.
The tradeoffs made make none of the options optimal and most are a similar level of bad.
No.3865
because it doesn't support big, open servers like discord or riot
No.3866
>>3809In what specific ways do you believe that XMPP is inferior? It works well enough for me, now that OMEMO is rapidly gaining support. And unlike Tox or Matrix/Riot, there's even a mobile client, Conversations, that's very easy on battery life.
No.3867
>>3804You can use Signal without Google Services now. There's an APK download on their website and you could always compile it yourself.
>>3809The kind of non-argument I've come to expect here. Please elaborate why you think so.
No.3868
>>3865There are no servers on discord.
Stop spreading this lie. What you're using are chatrooms on someone else's infrastructure.
No.3874
>>3804Two additional points:
>OWS refuses to use warrant canaries>OWS is located within easy NSL range of the US governmentI regard Signal the same way I regard WPA security on a coffee shop's wifi. It's fine for keeping messages secret from Manbun McNovelist with his macbook and pumpkin spice low-fat soy latte in the corner, and it's better than no encryption at all, but I sure as hell wouldn't trust it with anything that could land me in legal hot water.
Moxie&friends may have the best of intentions, but I think they have no idea how vulnerable they are to extralegal shakedowns (assuming they haven't already been NSL'd). They seem to have the typical San Francisco mentality of "technology will solve all problems". They need a serious legal scare to shock them into some real pragmatism.
No.3878
>>3606>Matrix>goodyeah totally with accounts leak. If account isn't hold locally it's bad. Very bad.
https://matrix.org/blog/2019/04/11/security-incident/index.html No.4042
>>3658Hey the lainbot is broken again, me and other people can't get into the chat, the invites aren't working. Can someone please reset the bot?
When the peer listing for the Club Cyberia room falls low, there is usually a problem with the bot. You are literally killing the room whoever is running this.
No.4043
>>4042should be fixed now (for the time being). Its helpful if you're willing to share ids with members in the chat, who can invite you if there's a problem with the bot.
No.4046
>>3874I view signal as a necessary evil to get normal people to encrypt comms. There is
so much irrational resistance to using anything but SMS or Discord, and Signal is so easy to use and familiar to the normal person mind that it can slip by that wrongthink barrier.
No.4047
>>4046also, Signal is usually good enough. The weak point in almost any op is whether or not someone will rat you out.
No.4048
>>3878They exploited jenkins you ｆｕｃｋｉｎｇ ｒｅｔａｒｄ, not matrix. Read the article you linked to.
Also, the whole userbase was not exploited. Its a federated network, most people are not using the matrix.org homeserver.
No.4052
>>4042>Hey the lainbot is broken again, me and other people can't get into the chat, the invites aren't working. Can someone please reset the bot?I get that sometimes but i think it's a clientside issue.
Creating a new tox account or unfriending lainbot and waiting for some time before adding it again helps.
No.4053
>>4052I have done this before on multiple new accounts and multiple clients. And I have created new rooms with the lainbot and attempted to replicate the issue with non- Club Cyberia rooms.
IMO it absolutely is the lainbot itself.
