/cyb/ - cyberpunk and cybersecurity

Unironically turn off/delete any social media and what not, and maybe go on a break with out internets; like going camping or something of the sort. I find it works quite nicely for me.

I think educating kids on responsible use of tech would probably be the best idea

Anyone found a good solution for blocking / limiting time on the Internet from a phone?

I use a rooted android phone with DNS blocking and iptables. I try to limit to just practical stuff. But since its IP based it blocks a lot of unintentional stuff.

I see apps for this but they look like soykaf.

>>3213
You have an unlimited well of free and infinite information at your finger tips, you'd have to be mad not to get addicted to that! Rather than over reacting and blocking yourself off from this great resource, you should learn to use it effectively. Delete social media, try to learn something every day. Make a list of goals (they don't have to be "useful", just things that would make you feel like you did something) and try to meet them. Make good friendships based on mutual interests. Stop playing repetitive multilayer games and replace them with more meaningful games.

I've never had social media and currently have to leave my house to get online and still I have this problem to some extent. Not being able to check messages and updates on a whim means I've lost much of the urge to keep looking but I still feel tempted to pull my on boots and walk to someplace I can get online, sometimes several times in a 24 hour period.

At least I get some exercise though, and often run into someone I wasn't expecting coming or going from the library. It's frustrating though, being at home rereading a saved copy of something I posted and finding a glaring mistake, then walking up the hill to stand outside Tim Horton's at midnight so I can edit it using their wifi. Part of me says "can't this wait" but the part that says "oh my god I was wrong on the internet" wins.

Use a flip phone, honestly.

>>3214
Just to confirm, spending time in nature is proven to calm your mind. Being told "go for a walk in the woods" if you're depressed is a much better starting point for treatment than anti-depressants.

I know its tough to find good forests in a lot of cities but I guarantee there is at least one where you can escape from the commotion.

>>3222
>>3213

Actually this. A lot of applications just convince you that they are important, but have no real value. I find myself agreeing heavily with this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpHyLG-sc4g

That being said, you can't just "stop" using the internet because it's not sustainable. Your body is (probably) used to receiving a high level of dopamine daily via over stimulation (music, internet). You must REPLACE the activity with something else.

Most of breaking free is just habit formation. But it's important to ask yourself why you want to break free of the usage. Personally I find a reason like "it's not good for you" is not compelling enough.

>>3224
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=walk+in+the+woods+for+depression

Life-long dependence on psychotropic substances or making a lifestyle change. I know which one I would want to try first.

>gen Z's insights on how to stay away from Internet activities
I have no woods to walk in nearby, no tracking devices to run "apps" on, I don't play games, don't watch e-celeb vlogs, own no social media accounts yet I still waste all my daytime (12-13 hours) on Internet. Now rustle me and tell me how to stop.

>>3226 Just out of curiosity, how do you fill this time ?

>>3226
I also have to ask what you do for 12 hours a day on the internet without browsing any social media, playing games or using a smart phone.

Sometimes i feel like i have the sunk cost fallacy, ive put so much into the digital realm that abandoning it would leave me impoverished.

I'm trying to cut out time-wasting stuff like arguing with people (many of who are in dire need of psychiatric intervention), browsing imageboards and subreddits that are full of fuck or plain useless, and watching youtube videos that are not particularly useful, entertaining, or relevant to my interests (watching someone play with magnets may be mildly interesting, but there has to be more to life than this). I'm also trying to reduce my tabs to zero (so much soykaf that I've left there to be dealt with "later," whenever that is), reduce my in-browser bookmarks to just the pertinent ones and cull everything I don't need, and just stop constantly using the browser. It shouldn't even be open all the time.

I spend so much time in my browser, and it's not because it's so much more entertaining or productive than everything else in the world (like the terabytes of anime, games and books I have), but because it has become the the easiest option. I've used the internet since the 90s, and the web was built around the assumption that people had slow dialup connections that they usually used for an hour or two a day, which was the case for almost all of us. You couldn't just pause what you were doing and alt-tab to infiniteclickbaitsoykafhole.com/what_is_trump_doing_today/fuckyou.html because you felt slightly bored for one second. infiniteclickbaitsoykafhole.com didn't even exist. Even when I got broadband later, things didn't change much. There were ways to waste time, but things were under control until the era of social media and smartphones started. Even if you don't use social media and don't particularly use a smartphone (like I don't), you are still affected. I'm basically trying to turn back the clock to the late 90s - early 00s, when I could spend hours in isolation doing one thing at a time.

>>3244
A lot of your mindlessness is in your muscle memory and computer muscle memory is an easy thing to break. You could switch to a work laptop, do your studying inside a full screen Windows ME VM, or just block a bunch of stuff in your hosts file.

>>3221
I do lol
>>3218
This but I like to learn stuff based on a syllabus and follow along. If you know where to look you can get things like pure maths course notes from places like Oxford.
>>3245
Good advice imo. I found that I was reflexively opening up youtube every time I got back home

>>3213
latest ios update includes Screen Time which lets you keep track of how much time you spend on your phone and specific apps. It allows you to limit specific apps to time limits and allows you to prevent using specific times throughout a time of the day.

I set any time wasting apps like twitter to 30 minutes max in a day

>>3310
Handouts from master to his slaves.

>>3225
I think you're overestimating the ability of the depressed to make lifestyle changes. A walking in general is probably great for mental health, but if you're deep in that hole pulling yourself up by your bootstraps can be a near impossible and harmful experience.

If getting rid of depression was really that easy it wouldn't be a chronic issue.

>>3224
He's right. The idea that people are just "meant to be depressed" and you can't fix it aside from using the special pills Dr. Goldberg gives you is absolutely insane. And in most cases they aren't even better than a placebo.
What depression should signal to you is that there is something unnatural and wrong in your environment. Perhaps you eat too many plants filled with antinutrients, perhaps not enough fat, or perhaps you simply despise the way modern humans live. Returning to nature is always a step in the right direction. Eat more fatty meat and organs, perhaps fish as well. Be around trees, be outside, let the suns rays cover you.

This thread has reminded me of the idea from the title text of https://xkcd.com/862/ . That is, add a small delay that you have to wait through before going to a distracting site which will reduce your urge to repeat the behavior.

There are a couple of browser extensions that implement this but they are unmaintained.

No fb.
No twitter.
No instagram.
No (insert a botnet client name here).
An old cyanogenmod fone.
I unironically am bored on my days off (I have 2 shifts/2 days off schedule) so much I don't know what to do with all this time.

>>3394
Every time I try to #lolreturn2nature I see how hard nature is being raped to death. Believe me, I've done more to improve my life and surroundings than you ever will, I can tell by the easy answer approach you offer. Guess what? Still depressed.

>>3402
what a narcissist but ok slay queen

>>3404
> narcissist
> slay queen

I don't think either of these mean what you think they mean. You're offering cheap new agey solutions for a complex problem with biological and sociological roots, so don't expect to be taken seriously.