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Help me fix this shit. https://legacy.arisuchan.jp/q/res/2703.html#2703

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 No.2828

When we write we produce trackable patterns. These patterns can be used to track individuals across platforms, and across identities.

How does Alice protect herself from being tracked in this manner online? Are there any software tools she uses to alter her sentances?

 No.2829

good writers can imitate any voice and create new voices, which is easy when you are already absolutely mindful.
i say good writing is part of the anonymity craft

is there a standard anonymous voice?

 No.2830

That's a headache as it's very hard to keep all criterias of anonymity in mind. Before you should touch the subject of patterns, you should make sure your new identify does not bring anything from past — it can be any similar information, pieces of text that are placed somewhere else.
The most easy way to get rid of this pain is mimicry.
For instance, in CIS countries it is accepted to replace smiles onto brackets, that will burn eyes and cause cancer of any adequate person))))). The more brackets you have, the strongest your emotion is, Ivan. This is generally accepted and most majority of CIS people write like this. You should also add absolute lack of knowledge of their native tongue and spelling. The message of a typical CIS habitant looks like this:
"ahahahah you wont believe,I was in the store today,saw so amazin chick !!!!!!!!! how long do u want to b a virgin ?????)) ))))".
This majority:
1) Don't know what the point and comma are. There is a subtype that loves putting dots and commas into random text places (in all its seriousness)
2) Don't know what the indents are, nevertheless these people love to write long messages.
3) Brackets, brackets everywhere )))))
4) Three dots… doubled or tripled.. when they are sad or serious….. many of them and always out of place…….. the more dots you put, the more is your sadness, Ivan.
These people are easy to copy. Some people copy them ironically. We call this pattern "brewing soykaf", literally. So what should you do? Set your attention on the majority, pick up several average habitants of this group and make your own pattern to use in untrusted places.

Besides the normal people I also noticed for myself these types of people:
1) Edgy boy — usually some unstable boi with low self-esteem that wants to affirm himself, often is showing aggression and can write WITH CAPS LOCK when he goes to the berserk-mode. Writing in this mode, he usually does not bother to put a bit of dots and commas in text.
2) Iamverysmart — a person who wasn't loved back in his childhood. Thus, his speech abounds with elegant and butifool words, parabolas, hyperbolas and sophismas.
3) Dat nigga — you get it.
4) True^TM gamer — would reduce any topic to the games or would try to shoot people with quotes of his favorite characters he already masturbated on.

Your main enemy is your habits, repetitive words and dialect. You can not finish your sentence with dot in chats, but can do it writing your posts or debating with people. Write 'soccer' instead of 'football' and you will give a hint to the researcher.
Fiction books are your friends. You can speak like Lovecraft, write like Poe, type like Hemingway.

In theory you can write or get a script that will shuffle words, delete repetitive words and insert some patterns. On practice, you should look for Anonymouth: https://github.com/psal/anonymouth
"The results give you a breakdown of common words you use, attributing sentence structure, and even some suggestions about how to change the document to defend against attribution"

 No.2833

I Love The Image In The OP; As For Their Actual Question, I Mimick The Voice / Quirks Of Different Homestuck Characters.

 No.2836

it also works to write in a foreign language and translate it back via various online tools. none of them gets the grammar completly right in the first place, so you kinda "robotize" your words. you may sound like a retard now and then, but it does the job.

 No.2837

This was the main reason i never posted online; caved in eventually.

>>2829
They can still set you apart.
It's like painting, sure a good painter (or even mediocre one) can mimick another but it's still identifiable, though not in a vacuum in the present day as far as i know.
They even identified, with hindsight, patterns of worsening motor diseases of famous painters by analazing their pictures' fractal patterns.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b225/c4048a003909a5a2f862a6832cc0eb1aa350.pdf

Everybody is unique, therefore discriminable; how much depends on the amount of you they have. Although writing is still fairly safe.

 No.2840

>>2830
I, too, have Aspergers but your analysis of True^TM gamer is very off IMHO.

Writing in this particular style comes off as very forced. The main goal (for me) is to have completely fluid and seemingly natural language with syntax and verbiage that I don't use and can't identify me.

IMHO I would add a few to your list that are similar but distinct.

iamverysmart_v2: Same as original but is actually stupid and uses, frequently, niche and often archaic grammar styles incorrectly.

True^TM gamer II: much less "LEL master chief says fucc u xDDD" and more normal. There are more subtle ways you could emulate the behavior of this person like saying "gg" or some other soykaf without looking like "how do you do there fellow kids."

The same thread is on Lain chan and I'd like to hear your thoughts on my idea about using foreign language -> English common mistakes:
Linguistically, people from different areas of the world who use English as a second (or third, etc…) language make similar mistakes when they translate mentally before they speak.

For example:
German has no gerund phrases, "I eat" and "I am eating" are literally the same, but in meaning they are different. The conjugation is implied in its context.
Germans speaking English (poorly) can still be understood even if they fuarrrk it up by saying "I am eat strawberries."
Spanish has gendered nouns and uses prepositions in a slightly different way.
It is not uncommon for me to hear to "put the lights in the Christmas tree" or "put more salt on the soup."

 No.2841

>>2830
anonymouth looks interesting, thank you.

>>2840
>The same thread is on Lain chan and I'd like to hear your thoughts on my idea about using foreign language -> English common mistakes:
Linguistically, people from different areas of the world who use English as a second (or third, etc…) language make similar mistakes when they translate mentally before they speak.

This is also interesting, and I like the idea of droping hints that suggest the speaker has a different background than they do. If these are subtle enough to be not obvious, but nevertheless solidly present one could give an observer the impression that they have discovered something (and that it classifies the speaker in a way that excludes other identities).

As far as conscious emulation of an specific style, while I am sure those work in some areas, a concern rises as far as being able to actually maintain the impression. Most people speak, mostly normally. They have hints, and mannerisms, but they dont do XDDDD at the end of every line unless they are being a troll. Honestly even the iamverysmart style seems more typical of trolls than anything.

Probably, further, these caraciture impressions _draw_ attention to the speaker, even if they make the speaker differentiated from other identities, they make you strongly interesting – exactly the opposite of what you want.

 No.2842

>>2841
>They have hints, and mannerisms, but they dont do XDDDD at the end of every line unless they are being a troll. Honestly even the iamverysmart style seems more typical of trolls than anything.
>Probably, further, these caraciture impressions _draw_ attention to the speaker, even if they make the speaker differentiated from other identities, they make you strongly interesting – exactly the opposite of what you want.
Precisely. I misunderstood what you originally said.

 No.3405

Extremely volatile personality.

 No.3408

There are online tests that can determine dialects of language you use, as well as your native language which all depend on what words you choose and how you structure sentences. These principles might also be used in forensic stylometry.

 No.3410

a thought: there exist some free translation softwares (example, moses). Though made for language translation they could be used for within language translations.

suppose I take say, some reasonably sized english novel, and go through it carefully, each sentance translating into my own words. I can then run this translator on my text, and try to get something with, we would assume the marks more of the author's writing than of myself.



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