/cyb/ - cyberpunk and cybersecurity

>>2468
I used Waterfox, went back to firefox because of the same problem performance issues, one firend recommended me Pale Moon, but idk it looks ugly, I would avoid anything chromium based tbh.

>>2468

The best browser that respect your privacy for the moment is pretty much Tor. If you don't like Tor the best alternative is Firefox ESR. Don't forget, if you use Firefox be sure to change the option in the about:config on the browser.

>>2473
well Tor is more a network I think

I use Firefox on my Linux machine with HTTPS everywhere, ublock, umatrix and privacybadger. It works pretty well, I would recommend it.

It is to notice thought that Chrome is more secure yet in my opinion worse from a privacy perspective

>>2473
Tor != Tor Browser
Anyway, whatever you choose, I really suggest you to sandbox your browser with firejail.

>>2477
I mean I know that the Tor network is more than just the Tor browser and while the Tor browser comes with some handy tools and configs, one of the main reason for better privacy is that it uses the Tor network

GNU icecat is pretty good for privacy, but I don't think I'm qualified enough to really claim it's best.

If you use Firefox, you can incorporate Tor settings into it through about:config by right-clicking the main part and making a new boolean called "privacy.resistFingerprinting".

>>2479
It is indeed good. Sadly there is a lot of counter part of it that make it really hard to use it.

>>2479
The problem with IceCat is that it gets security updates too slowly.

>CNTL-F "dillo"
> zero results
what a board

Microsoft Edge or it's user agent. The advertisers and other data mining companies will see you're already deepthroated by botnet, that they won't even bother on tracking you since it's cheaper to buy more accurate data from Microsoft directly.

Netsurf is a pretty nice browser as well, one of the most compatible browsers not based on the big 4.

Try Vivaldi. About as fast as chrome with down to earth staff conscious about security. Way more features too.

>>2515

Vivaldi is proprietary closed freeware. Security is always an great big question mark with closed software. Firefox, for all its warts, is at least fully open and highly configurable.

Firefox Focus. Minimal, blocks tracking, deletes everything on close.
But afaik it's only for mobile.

>>2473
Any resources or recommendations for that options should be changed?

>>2519
this ones a good start, it breaks some stuff but everything is commented and sourced
https://github.com/ghacksuserjs/ghacks-user.js

Firefox quantum is unusable for me because of the resources it uses. Don't know why but on my laptop it uses 5 times more battery power than chrome-based browsers and my fan goes crazy. Considering chromium is botnet though I really don't want to use it.

>>2531
Sounds like a bug to me. Have you reported it and perhaps provided useful debug information?

It shouldn't magically act radically differently on machines with mostly the same architecture. I'd think it's something broken with hardware acceleration.

What parallelism it has also shouldn't be causing this unless your processor has such problem with load… which wouldn't be a good indicator of its state.

what does /cyb/ think about Opera, i have been searching information about it but couldn't find anything.

>>2533

What kind of information are you looking for?

>>2533
It's closed and proprietary. This is everything you need to know.

Mothra

>>2533
>>2535
Wasn't it bought by the chinese? It's definitely a botnet, just depends whether you want to be spied on by Americans with chrome or Chinese with opera.

>>2538
If I remember correctly yes, it's owned by a Chinese company now. The VPN service they offer built in apparently logs everything, I would really not trust that piece of software

>>2468
I suggest using either Waterfox or Firefox ESR and add some add-ons. Just search up how to harden these browsers since there are guides out there and you should be set mostly (apart from fingerprinting)

>>2548
I'll definitely give waterfox another try, when I used it before it had high resource usage like firefox (not surprising considering it's based on it)

>>2549
You can also try Pale Moon in my laptop it runs like silk otherwise if you want newer addon support try Basylisk it is also developed by the Pale Moon team

>>2550
Being developed by the Pale Moon team is a good reason to avoid it, just look at what happened to the OpenBSD port.

>>2549
Dunno, waterfox runs pretty rad for my decade old laptop.

>>2551
What's wrong with the Pale Moon team? I've been using Basilisk without a hitch for a while.

>>2551
Wasn't the OpenBSD thing related to a licensing issue? I know the developer of Palemoon is a furry though, take that as you will.

>>2556
furries like anonymity last time I checked, so it might not count against them in this instance.

>>2556
Yeah the guy from the Palemoon team is a furry, I personaly dislike furries ,but well at least he can do a decent browser

>>2558
Good insight my man, turns out furries have one use after all

>>2552
Tried it and it shredded my battery, same as firefox so I guess it's a bug with that. I'll try nightly and see if I can change anything in the config to fix it.

Otter browser is nice. Sends no unsolicited requests on startup unlike most other crap.

If you are just looking for performance, firefox is the best there is right now - the new updates have made it over three times as fast as it was a year ago. This is because they ported large parts of the parralised servo engine (https://servo.org/) into gecko. The engine is written in Rust and It also has a large company backing it so security exploits are less of a worry than in slow old palemoon.

I know a lot of people who think they are cool by using opera. This is a terrible idea, please don't. Opera is now owned by the chinese which if you know anything, you would want to stay well clear. The inbuilt vpn is really just a proxy so China can spy on you. They also try and turn of https so they can "compress your websites" through their proxy again. Obviously, there isnt any proof that this is what they are doing but it wouldnt surprise me the way China is going.

If it is anonymity you want, just use Tor for everything. It might upset your ISP though and it will be slow af, and drain your battery in minutes. Also a lot of websites ban tor. But if you really want to be private, thats a good way to go about it. Most Lains in my experience use Linux and Tor for everything for ultimate privacy+anonymity.

If firefox is too mainstream for you though and you don't like/trust Mozilla (in my opinion thier core values are in the right place though) you can go with firefox forks or just any chromium based like epic or brave although I dont reccomend browser hopping if you want privacy…. Especially to unmaintaned ones nobody has heard of. Just pick one and stick with it rather than wasting your time installing new ones every day only to be let down.

By the sound of things, you want to save up for a less trash laptop or a faster internet connection, but in the meantime firefox with a no logs vpn and decent extensions is a good choice for the average person. Ultimately, the best way to have privacy is change your browsing habits. Also, if you want to make your batery last longer, the browser itslef isnt going to make much of a difference - optimise everything else for best battery life + performance and use either arch or ubuntu.

Less soykaf browsers:
Ungoogled-chromium
Surf
Qutebrowser
Mothra
Otter

The only 100% correct answer is not to use WWW at all

>>3362
Ungoogled-chromiun doesn't work 60% of the time just use Bromite or Iridium if you really want to keep using chrome-based sutff

>>2475
>tor is a network
he was referring to tor browser
>chrome is more secure
what do you mean by that?

>>3369
how is it doesn't work if it works for me?