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Help me fix this shit. https://legacy.arisuchan.jp/q/res/2703.html#2703

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 No.1772

This was on the back of a normal milk carton here in Sweden.
A rough translation:


AnonymX - A dilemma online

Samir sees an entry from anonymx that blames Levian in class for being a thief. Samir believes to know who AnonymX is. He also knows that Levian has long been bullied by that person. Samir wants to do something to help Levian. What can he do?

Take screenshots as evidence - and show the post for someone else who can certify what happened.
Make a post, saying that AnonymX is wrong and ask his friends to share it.
Talk to a teacher or school teacher.
Talk to AnonymX directly and tell them to quit.
Talk to the neighbor who is a police officer.

All options are possible. do you have any other ideas?
What's happening online is just as important to talk about as anything else you've been doing during the day. At Princeparentsstiftelsen.se and @merhjarta there are good tips and advice.


This appears to be an interesting moral dilemma, but we're given no suggestion that Levian could be a thief or that AnonymX is not who Samir thinks it is; the default position is that "whistleblowing" is a form of bullying and "good" people report such behavior.

The cartoon-ish graphics will be especially appealing to easily influenced children and adolescents.

Perhaps also worth noting that in Sweden, there's basically only one brand of milk (Arla), and it's sold in all shops.

 No.1773

Have you seen any other examples of everyday propaganda?
Have you any ideas how we can counter such things?

 No.1774

I don't think it's intended as a moral dilemma, all the options follow the same presupposed moral logic to some degree. I think it's intended as "Here are some ways to deal with cyberbullying", which does have the same connotations as whistleblowing, as you say,

 No.1775

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does anonymX have evidence?
if not ignore it
if yes then thats that, levian should be punished
And if samir wants to actually help he could help levian stand up to his bully (it might not even be anon so why not deal with the actual problem, especially with no evidence)

 No.1779

>Mjolk
lol

>>1772
Are you swedish? It could be awkward but what if you asked some kid what he thinks about this? I have a suspicion that kids these days aren't this retarded to believe this propaganda. They'll believe a tweet before a crappy drawing on a mass produced milk carton. I'm not a swede but if "they" tried to pull this soykaf on me and my peers when I was a teenager it would just make us bully online even harder.

 No.1780

>>1774
>which does have the same connotations as whistleblowing

what has the same connotations as cyberbullying?

 No.1784

>>1780
saying stuff about people anonymously. For children, they get hurt feelings. For adults, the truth matters.

 No.1785

>>1779
So, you would rather read a corporate-controlled blogging medium for propagandists based in US? Might as well quit drinking the liquid jew, especially with that amount of animal fat.
>>1772
>Samir
kek

 No.1788

>>1785
No, I'm just raising the idea that maybe teenagers don't care what the swedish establishment tries to promote through prints on milk cartons

 No.1790

The real solution is to help Levian man up and beat up his bully to assert dominance

 No.1791

The main reason cyber bullying works is because teenagers perceive world through emotions rather than logic. First, AnonymX must give substantial proofs of theft. Then, Samir should ask other kids in class whether their belongings were tampered. Finally, interrogate Levian on who this AnonymX might be. If AnonymX is bulsoykafting, then whole class beats him after school, if no, then report Levian to authorities. Simple as that.

 No.1792

>Samir
Ayyyyy

 No.1793

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>>1772
>Jojo Falk
Is this a JoJo reference?
>le ebin irönik childish artstyle
>it's a woman
Why am I not surprised?

 No.1808

>>1773
>Have you seen any other examples of everyday propaganda?

the answer is yes for anyone.
all media for children tries to teach them some moral.

 No.1809

>>1808
This now day propaganda is everywhere for everything.

Don't do this.
Don't do that.

Kids are teach obedience.

 No.1810

>>1773
There was a large media campaign about "cyberbullying" lately
>>1772
Hey, you mistranslated, it should be
>Talk to AnonymX directly and tell xir to quit

 No.1811

I think talk to AnonymX directly and tell them to quit is the one most likely to work.

 No.1812

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Everything is propaganda whether you think it is or not. You have someone in the background pulling the strings of the media, the news, the Internet's largest sites. The Vietnam war was televised for all of American's to see. You think they'd truly televise the terror that took and still takes place in Iraq? The War On Terror is ran by terrorists against other terrorists.

What if North Korea hacked the United States in some form? You really think they'd fucking tell their own Citizens? No, they'd get CNN and Fox news to make a small segment on how Russia is still tampering with our voting system and then talk about how Trump is deporting someone.

Did anyone ever teach you how the banking system works? Where does the money you just used on your credit card come from? It comes from nothing, and only shows itself when the bill is payed.

Walk into a College or a High School and ask students whether they can define true fascism, and not their Tumblr inspired definitions. We spent humans and blood to take down fascism in WWII and our own people most likely can't even define the very political ideology our people DIED TO STOP. Public School systems are owned by the Government, who govern what is taught. I learned more about the system and world from my community college art & film teacher (which I took as a filler class, fully expecting libtards to fill it) than I ever did in a History class.

You are exposed to Propaganda everyday, whether it be the movies that are being shown in the theater (compare what movies may try pushing now versus what they did in the past), or the ads you see while walking down a city street. Although, mind you that not all propaganda is inherently bad.

 No.1869

>>1772
Getting your subjects to denounce each other is divide + impera 101.

What is old is new again, prepare to see more and more "PSAs" and children's education focussing on outing wrongthinkers.

 No.1870

>>1812
I'd add companies as the number one pushers of propaganda. They want to create a certain kind of person, one that merely buys things and never expresses themselves creatively. You should not ask questions, except for when those questions lead you to buy more stuff to satiate an imagined need.



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