No.540
Hey, Alice. I've found something pretty strange, and wanted to talk to you about it.
I've been checking out sites like Torchan and the Google Groups Usenet archives, and the sites are infested with darknet scammers, mentally ill users, and those without any sense of OPSEC whatsoever. They post their real emails (clearnet ones!) in the headers of their posts, they misspell and use improper grammar, and they don't seem to have any logical consistency when replying or posting. Many come there to request illegal 'pizza', thinking that their code words will have any effect on their security or make them untraceable. Often they will be untrained with technology, and their political discussions are borderline conspiratorial.
Is it all just a big inside joke? I wanted to find obscure sites to help me escape the uninformative, boring insider trades I find everywhere else on the internet, and I figured that cipherpunks might have a haven on a darknet somewhere. Instead, all I've found is the insanity above.
Has anyone else had a similar experience?
No.541
>I wanted to find obscure sites to help me escape the uninformative, boring insider trades I find everywhere else on the internet, and I figured that cipherpunks might have a haven on a darknet somewhere.
That's what you wanted, but what did you look for? Public discussions. If a conversation is so sensitive that it needs to happen over Tor, it's not going to be public. People don't stop washing their hands because they have some anonymity. If you can think of a counterexample, that would be something you could search out.
No.542
>>541Word filter got me there - "insider trades" was supposed to be about circles of jerking.
It's not sensitive conversations that I'm going after, it's public ones like the ones that happen on /cyb/-related boards. Places like Torchan, unseen by all except those who use anonymization tools, would seem to have a higher population of cipherpunks in that regard.
No.543
All cool kids hang out on i2p. Onions are for druggies and underage "hackers" looking for pizza. There is also a possibility of such obvious retarded posts to be honeypot baits for even more retarded prey. Usenet is no longer used for anything besides very obscure file exchange.
No.544
>>540It's probably a very paranoid idea, but this might be an automated botposting operation to pollute Tor's public infrastructure, to make Tor seem uninteresting to those who might actually need it.
No.688
>>541Maybe not, some people just want to be free of government and big corporations that recompilate personal information about literally everything we do.
I'm not saying that i have something to hide (don't care tbh) but it is kinda scary.
No.719
>>544This is a retarded idea. Maybe the reality is that people on average are dumb, and people on average are boring. The current global average of the entire world is 82 IQ [1], it is much more plausible that most people are dumb, because most people are dumb. Most normal criminals are also on average dumber than the general populous, and OP was listing people engaged in boring criminal activity. I wouldn't be so paranoid if I were you, I guess doing so makes the world slightly more interesting though.
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http://www.unz.com/jthompson/world-iq-82/ No.720
>>719you are very smart. brightheaded smarty brain. smarterer than evryone so smart. smart. you are smart.
No.722
>>543You should lurk onions more, there are really good places like nanochan
No.723
nanochan is trash.
The best onionsites imo are fora dedicated to explicitly illegal activity. Drug boards, hacking boards, that kind of thing. Lots of great info and you can meet very knowledgeable people there, and usually the staff are really strict about opsec and spam.
No.724
>>722>>723I went on there one time. Having an onion hosted imageboard or really anything except text based informational site is a bad idea with how slow it is. Waiting thirty seconds to see a thread with the exact same 4chan crap but even worse isn't worth it. Aesthetics are dumb and have no thought put into it either.
No.725
>>723>>724>The best onionsites imo are fora dedicated to explicitly illegal activity. Drug boards, hacking boards, that kind of thing.The only thing derezzed on nano is CP, we already have an hacking thread and one about resisting government censorship, you can post whatever you want as long as it's a quality thread.
>It's slowThat's Tor for you in general, at least you have more time before posting to think.
>Aesthetics are dumb and have no thought put into it either.It was supposed to be just really simple(no Javascript, no API for more security).
Anyway i don't want to shill nano too much i just wanted to say that what
>>540 and
>>543 said does not happen on nano, where CP is derezzed and everyone is paranoid with opsec and admin is really strict with spam moderation(check the mod log).
No.726
>you can post anything you want as long as it's a quality thread
except you have to be a nazi to use the site. It says there right in the rules.
imageboard "resisting" is weak sauce compared to actual pros doing their thing.
