No.331
The better question is why wouldn't she be. I mean these companies are out to make a profit off of your personal data so given the chance (in the absence of strong laws like maybe Europe has) why wouldn't they mine the crap out of everything audible? That really puts a damper on me wanting something always on, always connected like the Gatebox.
No.332
>>330>>331yeah, the point is, if she can be, assume she is always listening.
No.335
>>334Officially it detects the name locally but interprets the commands in "the cloud", so only what is said to it while awake is supposed to be sent to Amazon.
No.336
Although I wonder if it can be remotely activated. I know it has been rooted before but I can't find anything about analyzing the software running on it.
No.345
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No.346
I checked the network activity of my Google Home Mini and it only uses it when I say "Hey Google," so the search for those activation words must be done locally. While it doesn't mean it isn't recording everything and sending it later, it seems unlikely.
No.347
>>345I had that thought. It reminds me of raising pigs or chickens for meat and giving them names. So much harder when it's time to destroy them.
No.348
>>346thats quite interesting, I suppose it would make sense for google to use such a filter, to keep their servers from constantly being swamped with vacuum noises and unrelated conversations.
Nevertheless, most people arent watching their packets, and the fact remains that even if google typically isnt listening in, it very easily could choose to listen in to specific individuals.
No.353
>>348That's what the NSA calls a SIGINT (signals intelligence) enabled device.
No.752
>>330Wasn't there this guy that showed that even having your mic on and talking would let google hear what you have to say and tailor ads for you? Either way I think it is safe to assume that companies and agencies can hear what you say without the need of a wifi connection if they really wanted. That's why people removed batteries from their phones.
The real question is, if you were found to say something illegal, what can they do to you at the moment? It seems like they don't do soykaf for now but what happens if some day in 5 years you typed nigger in a private message or yelled it while playing online without even anyone hearing you, would they be able to arrest you if you lived in Europe? Those are the questions you should be asking - and why you should be afraid.
No.754
>>752Owning a smart device like this really should just not be something that any sensible person does in the first place. They aren't in any way necessary.
No.756
>>754Being in tune with the latest technology is just the big fad and has been since the rise of the ironic geeks in the last decade with soykaf like the big bang theory. Now retards want everything to be digital and to not have any buttons even when it is counter-intuitive and worse than analogue.
There's also the aspect that people don't really care about surveillance anymore, at least that's what I have gathered from talking to people. I'm sure most people by now know that there is surveillance but they don't care because they think it won't affect them. These people post what drugs they take on facebook with photo evidence and nothing is being done about it yet, they think they are in the clear.
No.757
>>756I actually see this fad as a positive thing, normal people shouldn't be allowed to have security and shouldn't use software that is meant for non-normal people. They should use their walled garden apps. The good thing about these apps is that the wall goes both ways, they don't see/use the software I like, and I don't even have to acknowledge that they exist. Technology that allows freedom should only be available to those who are smart enough to take advantage of it, and thus are worthy of being free.
The thing you are missing is that once they start getting the cops called on them for their drug photos on FB or whatever they still won't care. They will never care, they are told not to, so they won't.
No.758
>>757Yeah who am I kidding people don't give a soykaf. They will half-heartedly protest, that movement will be co-opted by ideologues and they will go back to whatever is mainstream by then. Just like what has happened with every political movement recently. Occupy Wall Street, Tea Party (which I supported since I was naive enough then to think you could change things through voting), women's march, etc. Beatings will continue until morale improves.
No.759
>>757 you say this, but I have had serious issues trying to sell drugs to normal people, because they expect everything to be done over fucking snapchat and SMS. Idiots.
Less freedom for the masses means less freedom for you and me, full stop. When every person you talk to is caught in the spider's web you're also caught in the spider's web, unless you decide to become a street urchin totally detatched from society, then you'll basically spend your days being harrassed by cops who know your name.
No.760
Yes. It's amazon, what do you expect
No.766
>>759>you say this, but I have had serious issues trying to sell drugs to normal people, because they expect everything to be done over fucking snapchat and SMS. Idiots.Canadian? I know many cops in Canada (family and friends). They all tell me that probably 3/4ths of drug convictions these days come from SMS and Snapchat evidence specifically. They're tight-lipped on technical details, but one RCMP staff sergeant just laughed when I asked about snapchats being self-deleting. And I've gotten the distinct impression that Snap Inc.'s legal department is a pretty cooperative bunch.
Fun fact: all Canadian cops that I know use only Signal, Wire, or iMessage in their private lives, even the very-highly-paid senior ones who travel a lot on business and have very vague job descriptions who also never ever talk about their work. They're not Whatsapp or email fans. Take from THAT what you will…
No.767
>>766> Take from THAT what you will…That all your friends are Canadian bacon? Guess who's not invited to the next Alice convention. Just kidding, that was pretty interesting.
