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 No.637

I have really bad thanatophobia or death anxiety it keeps me up at night and I have panic attacks all throughout the day fearing that I could die it's not like a normal fear of death it's basically an obsession at this point I can't stop thinking about the fact that I could die soon. Anyone else experienced this?

 No.638

Yes, actually I had panic attacks in past, but it is very individual, everyones symptoms may vary. First of all stay strong. For me rescue was the thought that it will not happen soon, that everything is fine and I am aware of that is not real it's just my brain making a prank. Of course you need some help from a friend or a specialist, person with who you can share your thoughts freely and he/she can listen. Be brave. Find a hobby or some interest so you can completely dive in and forget about your panic attacks. Yoga/meditation can help your mind too. soykaf, maybe you already know it all and just asking about experience? Well, it was really soykafty time. After a years I sometimes feel emotional swings and it is very close to those panic attacks I had, but without a fear.

 No.652

Death itself is not really frightening to me but the suffering and pain caused by a lethal wound or even worse. I had bad trips on various drugs where I feared imminent death. One time I fainted, the other times things were less brutal, just uncomfortable to say the least. There are absolutely horrifying ways to go and many are just too common like car accidents or structure fires. Apart from the bad luck endings there are also a lot of ill people out there with unhealthy fetishes, who might knock you out and torture you for years until death becomes your greatest and only wish.

 No.653

I have hypocondria (health anxiety), which I believe comes from a similar place. I also have panic attacks about dying and keeps me up at night worrying about dying. Yet to find anything that helps, here's hoping we can get through this soykaf

 No.654

I think neurofeedback might help all of you a lot :)

 No.662

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I used to have panic attacks caused by just this when I was a kid, I think a lack of understanding had a lot to do with it. I understood the fact that my consciousness would cease to exist some day way before I was mature enough to deal with that fact, and I think that that has lead to a lot the problems I've had later in life. I'm not really sure if there is a state of mind that accepts death, the fact that it is inevitable sometimes helps people; being unable to fight against something is a sort of catharsis in and of itself, in that doing nothing is equivalent to doing all that you can, so there's no dissonance there. But truly accepting the futility and impermanence of life is hard, the fact that nothing matters by conventional terms is hard. Moving your brain from caring about some sort of permanent impact on the world, to a sort of ideal of personal experiences having self evident value is hard, and there is very little help in this aspect. I feel like most people don't actually conform to what is "normal" i.e., the standard expectation of society. We teach people to go to school, get a job, have 2-3 kids, put money into their retirement account, and watch their kids do the same thing, but how many people actually do that? It may be the most common path, but it seems like only 20-30 percent of the population has no other aspirations, so what is the point of standardizing education (in my opinion as, or more important than, parental influence) if most people don't fit the standard? I think the message of following your dreams and accepting the likely failure resonates with more people, even if having people try and fail may benefit society less (teaching people to not rise above their "class" and accept their place in society skips the annoying part of life where the working class actually gives life an honest shot before accepting their fate) I think at the end of the day you'll end up with a more satisfied middle class. Most people in my experience can accept trying and failing, but the feeling of having never tried tends to haunt people for a long time. I feel in general the practice of "projecting", or treating society as a whole in the context of your own experience tends to cause most conflict. People tend not to try to understand others, because they simply lack motivation or interest. Everyone is either a sociopath, antisocial, or some subset of abnormal because understanding others' motivation is a difficult and deeply personal task, you need to accept that your point of view of the entirety of reality is not only not the only one, but may be incorrect to even start, which greatly discomforts most of society. In essence, I feel that more and more people feel that they are alone in a world that increasingly favors the personal existance. The fact that "No Longer Human", a work that focuses on a man's disconnection from society is the second most popular piece of literature in Japan ever emphatically proves this point. If the majority of people can identify with the ramblings of a man alienated from society, what is the point of society at all? If people feel no belonging, but instead rejection, as a majority even, how can you proclaim the benefits of dependence on social interaction?

 No.770

I can't really relate, but please try to renember that you'll be fine regardless of what you think.

Attend some hobbys instead, read a book or do something to make you believe you have done something important in your life.



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