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 No.555

So I believe that there’s two realities at best, one is the true reality which no one is able to comprehend. And the other being our personal reality, and this can contort however we want it, either consciously and subconsciously, ex like being in denial or delusions. But we can’t twist facts obviously so we have to be in denial or live in a bubble to twist and turn our personal reality, so we can basically be what we want.

 No.558

I believe there are three (maybe four?) realities.
The first is the "absolute objective reality," which is the world stripped free of anything that might color one's perception/experience of what is there. This reality is pretty much absolutely unable to be experienced, since perception inherently alters the original reality.
Then there's the "personal reality," which you already defined.
And finally there is the "shared reality," which is the reality we all know as "real." This is the intersection of everyone's personal realities. Anything outside of this shared reality is considered fiction, delusion, joke, etc you get the point.
I speculate there's another "abstract reality" that exists in the abstract universe. It doesn't have an experience or perception associated with it. In the abstract reality, there are mathematical rules, philosophies, logic, that kind of stuff. But I'm also a bit of a mathematical romantic.

 No.559

>>555
i don't know if you have been influenced by him or if you are completely unfamiliar with philosophy, but your thoughts sound similar to those of Parmenides. Do check him out.

 No.560

i can agree with you, thats how i feel like most of the time, i guess it makes it easier to figure out a logical explanation for certain things that happen.
its like, reality alters your personal reality, and personal reality will change the way you perceive reality, like a vicious feedback loop.
i like telling myself that feeling down or happy is just a personal state that is engaged when certain things in the real reality happen. sometimes its easy to identify them, sometimes its not; and that serenity is the true point of balance.
we are such troublesome schools to ourselves

 No.566

> the other being our personal reality, and this can contort however we want it, either consciously and subconsciously, ex like being in denial or delusions

That's still just one reality but alternate ways of interpreting it. It's like toggling between regular, night vision, and infrared on a screen. You're looking at the same thing but seeing different aspects of it.

(Is it strange that we usually speak of reality as something we "view" when there are four other senses to use as well?)

 No.571

>>566
For what it's worth, one is very often "in touch" or "out of touch" with reality. I've yet to hear of it being smelled, tasted, or heard, though.



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