No.462
Helpful Links:Find your local legal spots here:
>https://legal-walls.net/Graffiti.org/Art Crimes is a goldmine, sample with an essay on the culture and politics of graffiti art:
>https://www.graffiti.org/faq/werwath/werwath.htmlPretty intensive graff forum still kicking today:
>https://www.12ozprophet.com/It's usually best to purchase graffiti tools/sprays locally, though I will list international online outlets if there are any prominent recommendationsContemporary graffiti can be called crude, crass and more often than not has been deemed as having no artistic merit, and though in a lot of cases that may be true, as a counter culture; stemming from Hip-Hop's revolutionary aesthetics, it offers a pretty open view into the mind of the urban hivemind and the movements contained within. Want to know just what these artists think of these critics? Hit up your local alleyways or bathroom stalls.
It's pretty easy to see that the illegality of such art on both private and public property contributes very much to the image of the artform as a whole. The roots of graffiti are deeply entrenched in commentaries on censorship and commercialization, so for as long as it's illegal and seen as it generally is today, this urban culture will keep on kicking.
Yes, graffiti is pretty much illegal everywhere and I personally would not advocate you tag up your local hotspots
"Just because everyone else does it there". Check out the helpful links above for locations of 'Free Walls', walls set up by local councils/governments for graffiti artists to test their skills legally, and usually in places where you won't be disturbed. That or you can scan for street exhibitions in your areas.
Call it pussified, call it faux-graffiti but it's better than being nailed by the cops and doing real time. (Yes, the laws can get that crazy in some countries, and I ain't talking third-world). No.658
Would love to get into this but where does one start? With finding the tools, a style, the beginnings in general.
No.660
> It's usually best to purchase graffiti tools/sprays locally
When I was your age we shoplifted that stuff, now get off my goddamn lawn.
No.730
>>729Awful. Talk about contrast in quality to the rest of the thread.
Also
>Forcing stale memes IRL Has Pepe reached Forever Alone-tier in terms of freshness yet or will it take another recycle over at Reddit/9gag before we're there yet?
No.731
>>730pepe will never reach that age.
> is mom as old as grandma yet, or will it take another decade or two.? No.732
>>729It's been found. That big city in Germany is Munich.
Here's some further forced memery on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzWjpjnRf-s No.743
>>732what will we do about the normal person question?
No.747
>>744Cheshire Cat(>>743) wants to gas normal people.
No.748
ehosk.
sorg.
No.749
>>747Perhaps we could compress his toxic Pizza Pocket farts to fill the chambers with.
No.886
>>884> The first graffiti artists in the world were cave dwellersFixed.
No.887
>>886Tell that KRS one ;-)
No.970
a neat lil sticker planted on a stop sign
No.971
>>970oops. image didn't post
No.972
>>971why the fuc won't it show
No.973
Personally I'm more into tags and throw ups than the cliche banksy style of high school social comentary that seems pervasive in "street art".
It's a symbolic reclaiming of the environment we've been alienated from by the spectacle, even if in the end it doesn't really achieve anything, it's a daily reminder as you walk past tags on the walls that resistance still exists.
This youtube channel is really great for small docs on different artists, i'll post some of my favourite videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6deFmr2JT1Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT-Km8ToCGUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNNBklAYcsoI also really like the style of pichação, which is a brazillian style of grafitti with a quite different aesthetic than the american style. They seem to be really into just covering buildings top to bottom in these mysterious letters which look almost like an alien language. picrelated.
No.975
>>974i would've said the inverse:
art is beautiful for what it is.
vandalism is beautiful for what it represents.
No.977
>>975The otherway suits me more imo.
Art always contrives the natural beauty in things, reagences it to express something abstract. It's always minamilstic in that sense, a reduced world - imo, all that man creates is art, in that sense.
Whereas vandalism, by tearing it apart, gives it back to the natural flow.
You can observe this very well everywhere time start to imprint its passing on things. They start getting torn and shred. They gain in complexity and beauty.
No.978
>>973I don't think you ought to criticize anything as "high school" if you're praising tagging as any kind of act of resistance.
No.980
>>977>Whereas vandalism, by tearing it apart, gives it back to the natural flow. That's why i say it's beautiful in what it represents. The resulting broken thing isn't beautiful in itself, but the process that creates it is what makes it so.
>reagences it to express something abstractis this something you notice in art or something you would say is a necessary characteristic of art?
I would not say this describes all art i've experienced.
I think good art would be beautiful in both ways.
if someone captures a time-worn object and shares it with others as art, is it not beautiful or is it not art?
No.988
legal graffiti is pretty cringe but go out and tag soykaf on the regular. find a name that sticks that you resonate with and keep on writing it. steak paint or buy really cheap $1 cans for tags. make your own ink mops using empty bingo daubers and huge vats of ink (Pilot is my favorite). use rollers to do huge tags. ruin soykaf and have fun, don't give a soykaf about graff politics, take your own spots.
No.989
>>988> legal graffiti is pretty cringeIt's also a contradiction. If it's legal it isn't graffiti :)
No.990
>>988Ive seen a lot of graffiti in places that is (imho) tasteful. most of its not tagging, not all of its easily traced to a identity the way tagging is. little stencils based on the surroundings. A poem scrawled in a corner, or written large on the wall. Whatever you want. Plenty of stuff to do.
No.991
>>990I think tagging is pretty cringe, it is a weird competitive sport like thing. I would much rather scribble inanely or write gibberish than write my nickname 50 times in a row. Seems really cringe.
No.992
>>991i think it's not only cringe but straight vandalism. i've seen very nice graffities and even mid-tier ones can make a wall look better but tags make them look like some ghetto soykafhole. I've done it once in my life when i was very drunk and i deeply regret it.
No.993
>>991Reminds me of dogs pissing to mark their territory. Some of it is even more close to that analog as it is gang related. I prefer to see random stuff that makes people stop and say 'wtf' or just something really pretty, or funny.
>>992…but it's legally still vandalism whether it's pretty or not.
