No.539
Several lains and I are interested in forming a collective of web designers, web developers, and sales representatives to either collaborate on freelance projects or form an flat hierarchy LLC. If you are interested, please contact me on Telegram. Serious inquiries only.
https://t.me/razorbelle
(private) or
http://bit.ly/laincorp
(group)
No.540
>>539Why Telegram?
Wouldn't IRC be enough?
No.541
I agree telegram seems sort of off.
No.542
>>541>>540At the time it was thought there would be a good pool of candidates on Telegram. I will discuss the IRC idea with Seph.
No.544
Yes, obviously any proprietary platform is a 'no'.
IRC is generally fine. There's also Tox.
No.545
>>539I know. I fucking hate Telegram. I go out of my way to disparage it on my website—
twice (see cyberpunked.org).
Herding cats doesn't even begin to capture how difficult it is to get lains to use the same fucking software so I just go with the lowest common denominator. So far that has proved to be Telegram, but I am open to alternatives. Telegram, Tox, and Wickr are fucked. Discord is proprietary. Matrix and Wire are garbage. Cryptocat doesn't have groups. If only there software that ran XMPP+OTR group chat. Lainchat when?
Anyways, for now you can also individually reach me by IRC (
seph
on Freenode) or email (
seph@gmx.com
). Maybe we can set up a mailing list or something.
No.547
What about having a couple pentesters/security researchers?
No.548
Noice.
No.550
>>549I just librebooted a thankpad and I was thinking of doing something like the companies listed here
https://libreboot.org/suppliers.htmlIt would be a great way to make some money.
So what is the goal of the Laincorp? Is the plan specifically to be a web firm or something bigger?
No.551
>>550>I just librebooted a thankpad and I was thinking of doing something like the companies listed here yup, that's what we're doing, also attempting to get libreboot on other exotic equipment.
No.552
>>545Matrix is garbage
right now. I think 1.0 will be revolutionizing.
No.553
>>552i'm trying my goddamn hardest not to derail this thread, sorry seph.
I've heard ppl say this twice today, and once from an acquaintance historically.
what exactly is garbage about it?
>>539i've often thought of creating a cyber syndicate, and i can say that i know a few people that have.
there's stuff like snowdrift.coop, i'm pretty sure mask magazine operates like this, i know a local float tank operator that pays all the employees in cryptocoins 0.o
have you given much thought to what you would actually want to do?
I can say that I've got an incredibly ambitious managed services provider project on my mind
No.554
>>553i forgot about these folks:
http://agaric.com/basically what you describe wanting to set up seph.
then there's openwhisper systems as well!
No.555
>>553>have you given much thought to what you would actually want to do?Yes. We plan on marketing ourselves as an "anonymous web services" company where we accept bitcoin for web design, web development, and data analytics. We will use OTR or PGP for correspondence and may set up a .onion site as well. The collective nature of the group will also allow us brand the service as "distributed development" that can dynamically flex with the changing scope of a project.
No.556
Mobile development is also another service offering we'll be considering at the onset. Systems development as well (SAS etc.)
No.557
>>555oh soykaf, i think we're on the same wavelength here seph ;)
i recommend using ricochet as the chat program of choice, that's what basically every tor developer uses to keep in touch when not on irc.
No.559
How many people are already involved? Any screenshots of work that they have done collectively or individually?
https://coy.im is a private\anonymous by default xmpp client. https:/ricochet.im is also nice but not xmpp.
No.560
I love this community.
But may I suggest that if this is indeed going to be a
>collective of web designers, web developers, and sales representatives to either collaborate on freelance projects or form an flat hierarchy […]it would appear that you want to make a cooperative. LAINCOOP would then also probably be a more fitting name.
To elaborate on these trajectories; have these helpful links:
http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Cooperativeshttps://blog.p2pfoundation.net/open-cooperativism-for-the-p2p-age/2014/06/16Good luck. After I'm finished with my studies you can expect material contribution from me, fam!
<3 No.561
>>5531. The main client (i.e. not browser-based) is from my experience still very buggy
2. Some fundamental features are up for complete re-write apparently before 1.0 (the whole 'devices' component IIRC)
3. It's not e2e encrypted by default, putting significant usability difficulties in the hand of your average users, whom this software is supposed to be the new platform for (users of Dischord, Skype, you name it).
These are all problem that will be solved with the stable release; 1.0.
No.562
I have no lain acceptable skill but I'm learning python right now. How can I be a part of this besides grabbing any coattails I find?
No.563
>>560>LAINCOOP you got a point
But LAINCORP sounds infinitely cooler. Infinitely.
No.567
Pentesters / security researchers / white hats are definitely welcome; it diversifies the service offerings.
No.568
>>560As for the name LAINCOOP I think of chickens and their eggs. Nah.
No.571
You know if you guys want I could easily setup a VPS with FreeBSD. Each user in their own jail so they have root access to their segment only. I could setup a quick internal irc/email server among others. It is up to you guys. I should be still logged on the irc. I am at dinner but if anyone is interested feel free to PM me on the freenode server.
No.573
>>539>(USER WAS derezzed FOR THIS POST)lolwat
No.574
New civil war? Dammit kalyx.
>backups
No.579
>>539Wait what's the deal with the ban?
No.580
>>579>Wait what's the deal with the ban?It was a fucking meme. It has nothing to do with anything.
No.667
>>562Do you mind coming over to
>>537 Just wanna know where you are at in your learning process, projects, etc…
No.669
any update on LainCORP?
No.670
>>539I don't have any experience with web frameworks but I do know python. Is this acceptable?
No.1437
Did this ever happen? I just quit my current job and am floating around looking for other work with about a couple years of runway cash until I really NEED another job. If you all have any contracts with anyone or have any consulting gigs that are actually working out I'd love to hop on just for fun.
No.1453
>>1437I'd like to be involved as well, if this ever ended up happening.
No.1454
sure do wish i was smart and able to graduate school so i could do something cool like this
No.1455
>>1453We could start another one if you would like and have more than one laincorp if you would like. No reason we can't have two communities of lains working together on group contracts.
No.1466
>>1465I'm vaguely interested. Do you have any concrete ideas about organization or projects?
No.1467
>>1466It stems from the idea of helping businesses that aim for things other than just profits. That might sounds a bit (or completely) oxymoronic, color me a unicorn if you will :) Flos tools come as a natural fit here.
In terms of org i'm taking inpiration from the likes of twin motion studio, a flat org of about dozen members.
The projects - i'm scratching grounds here though, might be the usual integration game, custom tailored suites of cmses, comms and the like. I doubt bespoke projects would be an easy task at this scale. Promoting flos values here is probably amongst the core values here.
Again, this is just ideas so far, and i'd be intersted to get this conversation going and meet like minded folks.
No.1501
>>1467Let me know if you all ever get anything going I would love to work on some projects with you all.
No.1504
>>1501As far as
>>1465 is concerned, there has been little intereset and just a modicum of action by op. If you feel like it, then at least some brainstoriming would be a good next step. Seeing if our interests align would be proper too.
It's mostly questions of ethics (think floss for a crude bottom line) and doing it together. If these strike a chord with you core values… damn, I forgot to mention it supposed to read some notion of fun too… then sign… reg… nah - just speak your mind here and maybe We could get something going.
